blastAway
I posted part of my issue on another thread but wanted to keep it separate to avoid confusion. I’m trying to get confirmation from my insurance company that my policy isn’t messed up in some way. It’s happened before where they have dropped off about $75,000 of death benefit and later had to add it back. Currently they are basically not responding to any of my inquires either positively or negatively so any help from the group about what to specifically ask for will help.
Background:
Benefit $1.5MM
Premium $18,000 annual
Some riders on it that make my analysis complicated which is why I need help.
Questions:
1) For a straightforward policy where the dividend is taken in cash AND the dividend rate stays the same, is the $ amount of the dividend expected to increase or remain the same over the life of the policy?
2) So, with a policy where dividends by PUAs and there’s a $35,000 single premium PUA shouldn’t the dividend $ amount increase each year? Or a better question, even with a decrease in dividend rate, nearly 2% over 11 years, with these riders should the dividend $ amount remain the same as 11 years ago?
3) Since dividends are return of premium, would you expect one policy that has a much higher premium to return greater $ amount of dividend than another one. I know the actual calculations are complex but I'm just trying to find any sort of pattern to communicate a possible problem to the insurance company.
Policy Comparison:
We bought another policy at the same time (different company) and this one is behaving much more as expected. The death benefit and premium is much lower but the dividend $ amount has consistently increased over time, even with a drop in dividend rate. There’s no single premium PUA but the dividends go towards purchasing PUAs just as in the other policy. During the same 5 year period there was a drop in dividend rate but the $ amount of dividend still increased each year. In the first policy, the dividend $ amount went down.
I’m trying to get the insurance company to show me that the PUAs (or premium of said dividends) are being considered in subsequent dividend calculations. Like I said, the other policy seems to be doing this, so why doesn’t this one. Any input about what I should ask from the insurance company would be greatly appreciated. The previous illustration didn’t include “expected” dividends so I don’t know what was expected of the policy. Luckily the illustration from the 2nd policy did include that. I have asked the insurance company for a new illustration but I haven’t gotten anything. Pretty bad customer service but I think they are also confused. They say they understand what I’m saying but still have no answer for me.
Thanks everyone.
Background:
Benefit $1.5MM
Premium $18,000 annual
Some riders on it that make my analysis complicated which is why I need help.
Questions:
1) For a straightforward policy where the dividend is taken in cash AND the dividend rate stays the same, is the $ amount of the dividend expected to increase or remain the same over the life of the policy?
2) So, with a policy where dividends by PUAs and there’s a $35,000 single premium PUA shouldn’t the dividend $ amount increase each year? Or a better question, even with a decrease in dividend rate, nearly 2% over 11 years, with these riders should the dividend $ amount remain the same as 11 years ago?
3) Since dividends are return of premium, would you expect one policy that has a much higher premium to return greater $ amount of dividend than another one. I know the actual calculations are complex but I'm just trying to find any sort of pattern to communicate a possible problem to the insurance company.
Policy Comparison:
We bought another policy at the same time (different company) and this one is behaving much more as expected. The death benefit and premium is much lower but the dividend $ amount has consistently increased over time, even with a drop in dividend rate. There’s no single premium PUA but the dividends go towards purchasing PUAs just as in the other policy. During the same 5 year period there was a drop in dividend rate but the $ amount of dividend still increased each year. In the first policy, the dividend $ amount went down.
I’m trying to get the insurance company to show me that the PUAs (or premium of said dividends) are being considered in subsequent dividend calculations. Like I said, the other policy seems to be doing this, so why doesn’t this one. Any input about what I should ask from the insurance company would be greatly appreciated. The previous illustration didn’t include “expected” dividends so I don’t know what was expected of the policy. Luckily the illustration from the 2nd policy did include that. I have asked the insurance company for a new illustration but I haven’t gotten anything. Pretty bad customer service but I think they are also confused. They say they understand what I’m saying but still have no answer for me.
Thanks everyone.