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Old 06-13-2008, 12:31 AM   #1
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Losing house. Can 401k and IRA savings rescue?

We just built a new house in Michigan, and then were relocated to CA by my husband's company. We have a 400k 1st mortgage (30 year fixed at 6.75), and a 140k 2nd (5 yr arm at 11.95). Combined, the current payment is above 4000/month. The house appraised at 630k a year ago when we listed it, and now we will be lucky to get a 350k appraisal. If we take a new job back in Michigan, we will only be able to afford 1500/month. The only thing we have left is 150k in a 401k, and 75k in an IRA. Before we try for a deed in lieu, or short sale, or hit by foreclosure, should we consider paying down our mortgage and refinance with our retirement funds? By now our credit has been hit hard. We are desperate and confused.
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:30 AM   #2
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I say no.

Your credit is already ruined, so having a foreclosure will only hurt you a little more.

The entire economic situation in Michigan is completely in the toilet. Chances are very good that your home will never be worth what you paid for it, in your lifetime.

But your getting older, getting sicker, wanting to retire, needing to retire -- those are pretty much sure things to one extent or another, so you need to hang on to your retirement funds, which you will need. You also need to keep adding to them. These retirement funds are also protected in the event of bankruptcy. Yes, I said bankruptcy. If you choose to allow a foreclosure, you really need to consult a bankruptcy attorney.

With the way things are in Michigan, it's not like you only need to hang on for a year or so, and things will be better. No -- things are VERY bad there, and I'd be surprised if your home essentially DOUBLED in value, back to what it was worth when you bought it, anytime soon.

Protect yourself, and protect your future (your retirement funds). That house is the past, and you may need to shed it, if you can no longer afford it.
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Old 06-13-2008, 09:35 AM   #3
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The very last option should be to touch your retirement investments. Have you talked to your lending company about your situation? They may be willing to work with you should your payments get behind. You mention that you would be lucky to get a 350k appraisal? Don't worry about what it is appraised at......worry about what it will fetch in your market. I know markets are down.....but I hardly doubt you would drop that much appraised value in just one year. And i am very curious....why did you build a 400k house in Michigan if you can only afford 1500 a month in home payments? Unless one of you had a job loss....this makes no sense to me?
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:28 AM   #4
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We were making quite a bit more at the time we built. I lost my job, and my husband is in pure commission, and had to give up his client base with the move.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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Unhappy Can you survive without credit for 3 years?

If you walk away from a home and let it foreclose, you must wait 3 years to be able to re-qualify for a new mortgage loan.

With a little bit of expert credit rebuilding during those 3 years - you should be able to be in the high 600's, and be able to buy a home again then.

If you can't sell, then don't worry, 3 years isn't too long to rent and become a cash customer...
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Old 06-24-2008, 04:15 PM   #6
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Sink or swim?

The biggest threat to giving your home back to the lender (in a foreclosure) is that you'll NOT be able to buy another home for 3 years.

If you can survive without owning a home for 3 years, then that's wise - or you might just be forced to on your move to CA. Credit can be repaired over 3 years, so you should just aplan on renting a moderate place - and work to re-establish good credit.
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