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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Hello everyone, my first post here.
First a little background: I am 21 years old, and just got the first job of my 'career' (after many unskilled employments) making 50k/yr. My company offers a 401k plan, but no match (currently - they say they're looking into it for the near future ~1-2years). I become eligable for the 401k after 90 days. I have about 26k in student loans @ around 13.5%. I plan on consolidating them soon which will bring the rate down to around 8-9%. I have minimal credit card debt which I plan on having paid off within a month or two. Should I be paying off this student debt instead of contributing to a 401k and IRA? or should I take longer to pay off the debt and start contributing to these retirement accounts now? In addition, if starting to contribute to an IRA now is a good idea I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions about a good place to open one. I enjoy researching and picking my investments but I am by no means an expert . I've read and own a few books on investing (in stocks), and I want to learn as much as I can.Thanks! -Brenden |
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Brenden,
Glad to hear you are thinking about your retirement at an early age. The power of compounding over time is impressive, no matter how you look at it. In response to your question, I would do both for the following reasons: You don't have the choice of not paying your student loans, so whatever your payment is, I'd suggest paying that as a minimum. I agree with your decision to consolidate to a more reasonable rate. I would suggest staying away from Salle Mae loans. You might get a better rate at a local credit union or shop for rates at a site like bankrate.com. Don't forget you can deduct student loan interest on taxes, so paying the loans off earlier won't make as large of an impact as having used that same money to jumpstart your retirement account. You can't take back time. Ever hear of the snowball effect? That's exactly how it works. Starts small, but as you continue with contributions, interest is made on interest, ect. Whatever disposable income you have after your monthly bills, contribute as much as possible to an IRA, specifically a Roth. Once your employer offers a match, you would contribute to your 401k first, up to the match (hey, its free money with a guaranteed return). If you still have funds to invest beyond the match, put those remaining funds into the Roth. Previous thought consensus was you would open a traditional IRA or Roth based whether you were going to be in a higher income bracket in retirement or during your working years. With all the added features of the Roth, it would be wise to fund one regardless of your current or planned tax bracket in retirement. Companies like Vanguard, Fidelity, and T. Rowe Price are all great companies. Try to choose one with a large selection of no-load funds (no sales charges). I personally use Vanguard and they have great customer service and a user friendly web interface to access your account online. Good luck! |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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21 years old making 50K, very nice. Do yourself a huge favor and knock out that debt. Mathematically it may not be the top option but learning to live debt free at your age would be a huge advantage. After that as long is there is no company match (I wouldn’t bank on that company promise to match funds) fund a Roth. You also need to set up an emergency fund.
Having no debt is a tremendous feeling. Once you get to actually experience it it provides a lifetime of yearning to get back to that state. This will help you avoid the consumer dept problems that so many of us fall into. Don’t get me wrong, there can be advantages to some good debt. A mortgage is a possible example of this. I am not totally anti debt…but it is a tremendous feeling. Enjoy your good fortune. Just this humble amateurs opinion. Last edited by jims money : 10-12-2006 at 10:50 AM. |
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Both TimH and jims_money give good advice. If it was me, I would do a combination of their advice.
If I was in your situation, I would 1st create a mini-emergency fund of $1-2K. Next I would fund a ROTH IRA, and then put any additional money towards the student loans (especially at a rate of 8-9%). I agree with jims_money on the advantage of being debt free. If and when your company begins to match, I would adjust accordingly to get that 'free money.'
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Thanks for the advice guys, I apreciate it!
I hadn't been thinking about an emergency fund but that is something I'll do first, I'm thinking 2k initially. Then I'll open up a Roth IRA and get my money in there for '06 and '07. Another question...I've read that it can be beneficial to contribute in January to the IRA rather than at the end of the year, so it would be possible to contribute for '06 in January/Feb before I file my taxes correct? |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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The sooner you contribute the better.
Waiting for January would be the case for a traditional IRA or other deductible IRA/plan because you could estimate your taxes from the year prior and eliminate/reduce any taxes due with a deductible contribution. With a Roth, the time of year is essentially irrelevent because there is no tax adjustments for a Roth contribution. You will have until April 15th (filing deadline) to make contributions to any IRA for the year prior. Hypothetically, you could max out 2006 on April 14th, leaving the rest of the year to fund 2007. This "window" is important with Roth contributions due to their limited capacity ($4000 max for your age per year). The window will allow you to make your 2006 contributions after the tax year ends, preserving $4000 of tax-exempt contributions that may have been lost otherwise. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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i want to weigh in adding my support to MM's recommendation of an emergency account. drop it in a Money Market Savings Account - you should get around 5% for this money.
pay off all debt with interest rates of 5% or more immediately (except possibly a home - i know this is not you brenden, just for other readers who might be reading). don't wait for Dec or Jan or Feb for your investment contributions. Dalbar has done some great studies on this and it is almost always to your advantage to dollar cost average vs one time lump sum investing. a couple of percentage points is the difference between an amateur and a buffet (as in william). since we are in OCT i would spread my $4K over now until MAR and then dump in your 2007 contributions starting in JAN for the full year. this complication might mean several thousands of dollars of compounding. of course, this also might not work at all, but history gives it a better chance than not. 1MO |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Thanks alot guys for the advice!
Last edited by makemoneywork : 10-18-2006 at 05:13 PM. |
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